Get in Control Over Your Schedule
Tom Shrader addresses time management as part of his 'Get in Control of Your Life' series, teaching that our 168 weekly hours are our most valuable resource because time is non-renewable. Using Proverbs 25:28, he explains that like a defenseless city with broken walls, people without self-control over their schedules are vulnerable to wasting their lives. He emphasizes that wise time management requires seeing life as God sees it, seeking counsel from godly advisors, and submitting our plans to the Lord who ultimately determines our steps.
“Your time is to be invested, not squandered.”
— Tom Shrader
Series: Getting Control (2016)
Recorded: 2016
Duration: 39 min
Themes: time, schedule, priorities, discipline, wisdom, planning, stewardship, control, overwhelmed by schedule, struggling with time management, lacking discipline, busy professional, parent, seeking life balance, feeling out of control, mid-career crisis
Scripture: Proverbs 25:28, Proverbs 15:22, Proverbs 9:10, Proverbs 14:14, Proverbs 14:8, Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 27:1, Proverbs 16:9, Proverbs 19:21, Proverbs 16:3, Mark 8, James 4:13
Theological Themes: stewardship, biblical wisdom, sanctification, spiritual discipline, providence, god's sovereignty, proverbs, discernment
Full Transcript
You have outlines in front of you, and it's a four-week series titled "Get in Control of Your Life." I think I mentioned this last week, but I selected this series specifically because I thought I needed it. I usually look around and say what's going on in the world, what's going on with the people I talk to, but I needed this. It's four topics: Get in control of your finances, which we talked about last week, and it wasn't so much financial planning stuff but a perspective on finances. Next week is on appetites, and that's not just food—that's desires in life that can pull me off track. The last one, and you may look around and say "where were you when I needed you," is on career.
Let me tell you what your push is going to be. Your push is going to be away from that discussion, and I'm saying no, you need to pull it in because so many of the principles that we'll talk about are applicable to your post-career life. One, if you are an older person, you have people—kids, grandkids—asking you for career advice. That's what happened to me last week. I thought, "I'm not sure how this is going to go," and I had guys saying to me, "I'm in my early 70s and I need to hear this." Then I had all week long guys saying, "I needed this when I started up. I'm 50, but I needed this when I started my job. Now I'm starting over again." So the career stuff is important.
I wanted to get at, for my own good, this session today: Get in control of your schedule. Get in control of your time.
The Things We Can Control
So I repeat what we did last week. I can look around and get a sense that things are out of control. In fact, many things—maybe most things—are beyond your control, but they're not out of your control. So I'm looking at the things I can control.
The reason I'm going to Tucson is to do something I'm so excited to do. It's become one of my favorite things to do. It's a mandatory in-service day for high school coaches of spring sports, male and female. Part of the point we make in there is that in coaching, the only two things the athlete can basically control are their attitude and their effort. You can get bigger, faster, stronger, but you either got some talent or you don't. I mean, if I'm going mano a mano with LeBron, I can lift a lot, but it's not going to get me there.
Well, the transition is so appropriate to our life. I can control my attitude and my effort. I share with you—I'm honest about it—that's a real struggle for me. It's a real struggle for me to stay up and to stay after it.
A Lesson from My Grandson
One day I was down, just discouraged. Not down enough that you need to think less of me, just discouraged. I was frustrated and watching the news, and Brayden, one of my grandkids, said, "Papa, who's your favorite president of all time?" I said, "Well, let's work backwards—not now." I don't want you to be political because of me, but I gave him an answer and said, "Who's yours?" He said, "Franklin Pierce." In my entire life—and I'm telling you, I talk about this stuff a lot—I never had that answer.
I said, "Why?" He said, "Well, I just read a book about him." He was eight at the time. He said, "I just read a book about him." If I remember, he was from Vermont and he had a son that was killed, and he gave me this whole thing. I said, "Buddy," and he's got this red hair and this big smile, and I said, "That's incredible. What do you want to know?" He smiled and he said, "I want to know everything." I had just given up on knowing anything, and it took me—I absolutely soared. It changed my day.
The Great Equalizer: Time
When we talk about money, some of you check out because you got a bunch and you think you're fireproof. Some of you don't have any and you think it's impossible. When we get to this, this is the great equalizer: time. You got 168 hours this week, every one of you, no matter how old you are, how healthy you are, whatever your background, whatever your financial statement.
In a way—and I have to preach this to myself so strongly—it's the most valuable resource because it's non-renewable. If I lose a thousand bucks today, I can go get another thousand bucks. But if I lose today, I can't get today back. What's happened to me, so I presume it's a dilemma for you, is as I cut back my work schedule, I freed myself up, and the opportunity to waste this resource is huge.
If I let inertia take its course, I'll tell you what happens: I'll get up at 5, I'll have a cup of coffee, I'll watch the news, I'll watch the golf channel, I'll watch sports classic, it'll be 8 o'clock. Take a nap, then I set the alarm to be up for Family Feud at 10. I mean, that's my day if I don't intervene—that's my day.
Taking Control by Design
I have guys in my life that I watch, and they take that time and they're involved. Today's Thursday—today's a killer day. We go all night, all through the night tonight. We did the same thing Tuesday. Tomorrow's a busy day. Saturday's a busy day. But I do that by design.
The theme verse is what you have on your outline: Proverbs 25:28: "Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control." You're defenseless.
I told you last week when you come in, the outline's going to look the same because the form's the same every week. We ask the question—in this case, who's out of control? Then principles for getting control, and how do you know you're in control.
Who's Out of Control?
So you'll get the balance of this real quickly. Who's out of control? Number one: people who work too much. Number two: you can figure this—people who don't work enough. So you're going to go the second part: people who relax too much, people who don't relax enough. So I've got guys I know who take sick days to plan their vacation. I'm a big vacation guy. I love vacation. I love relax, but I love—
Relax and I have learned that it's best if I relax with a purpose, vacation with a purpose so that I recreate myself to get back engaged in the game. Every time I talk about relaxing, I'll get a guy, usually a man, hardcore, and he'll go, "I haven't had a vacation in five years." Okay, I'm begging you, take a vacation at least for the sake of the people around you, if not for you. You're not just a machine that can go and go and go. So it's the balance.
Who's Out of Control
Keep going. Who's out of control? People who have too many things on their schedule, people who don't have enough things on their schedule. You all have been at business long enough where we used to have the old day timers and then time systems and you'd have your hours plotted. The beauty about a schedule on an iPhone is you now can break your day into five-minute increments. That's getting pretty intense, and probably some of you are thinking, "I wish they could get it down smaller than that," but you just have too many things to do.
The other thing, you can figure this out by now, the rhythm of this, are people that don't have enough to do. What are you gonna do today? Depends on who calls. Whoever calls first.
The inertia of most people is most people that I know in my life are incapable of sustaining a relationship. They don't call. I initiate. That's what I've discovered.
We were at Costco the other day and Sandy bought forks, plastic forks, 500 of them. I said, "Well, the one thing I know is that when I die, we got forks." We're gonna have, I don't know what we're gonna serve, little meatballs, we're gonna have forks. I think at my funeral, there'll be guys there who will say, "Tom was my friend." But I think if you look at any sort of depth of that relationship, most of the time, not always, there's differences, but it's rare, it was a relationship that I sustained or initiated.
I made a list of guys at the beginning of this year, met with one on Tuesday and said, "Hey, I got a list of a dozen guys or so. I'm gonna try to meet with you once a month, not because I want anything other than to sustain a relationship." So you got guys, if you don't have that, if you're not scheduled, inertia will take you where you'll waste your time.
So it's the last thing: I'm under control, people who plan all their time and people who don't plan time at all. You get the feel of that. We could have group thought that and you'd have gotten to those things pretty quickly.
Principles for Control
What I'm not doing is trying to give you time management or goal setting or all those things. I have become absolutely convinced that those are more important than I ever dreamed they were. Maybe it's because it's the stage I'm at. As you get older with less responsibility, they're even more important or you'll waste them.
Part of this coach's thing. On Saturday, I'll have three, three and a half hours with these coaches. I walk in the room, I have no presence at all. I mean, they're looking for a coach, an athlete. I walk in and they're thinking, "He must be his driver or something." But you know, if you give me time, I'll get control of the room.
In that process, my whole thing is to drive them toward one point. That is, they have great power in these kids' life and that demands great character. They're the most influential people probably in these kids' lives. The phrase that these kids repeat that has the most authority in their life is "coach says."
I watched these guys coach junior high baseball Friday night and they were in total control of those kids. That game was over and the kids were out. They went up, thanked the umpire. That doesn't happen often. Thank the umpire. This poor guy was calling balls and strikes behind the plate and working the bases. That's a tough gig. They had a present for each of the kids in the other team. Then they sat down. Andy led them in just a time about taking kids and honoring each kid with the parents sitting there.
None of these guys are coaching guys that are gonna make a living playing this. But they've all got kids that are gonna get married. They're gonna have jobs. They're gonna learn principles.
The Power of Character Development
I could kill you with stats at this point. They did a survey, 70 Fortune 500 companies, executive VP level and above. 47% of them, male and female, were in National Honor Society. 95% played high school sports. That is an amazing stat to me.
Where sports really kicks in is with girls. Girls who play high school sports are three times more likely to graduate, 92% less likely to take drugs, and 80% less likely to get pregnant. You're teaching character.
All of a sudden, I'm not trying to teach you those X's and O's of this time management. I'm trying to raise your awareness on the importance of this so you'll do something about it. Got it?
Your Schedule Is Your Greatest Asset
Your schedule is your greatest asset. So how you invest your time is your greatest decision. I like the word. Your time is to be invested, not squandered.
There's a word I hate that you hear it often in parenting. It'll go, "I sacrifice so much for my kids." I hate that. My kids never heard me say that because I never felt like I was sacrificing. I felt I was investing.
My girls were cheerleaders among other things they did. I went to hundreds of awful games. I went to a basketball game one night where the final score was 74 to four. We were the four. Wasn't a lot of cheering going on. And I'm there. You know what? To this day, my kids will say, "You know, you remember when we were in Maricopa?" Maricopa's always the first game of the year. Maricopa, you may not know, is the fly capital of the world. There are thousands of flies at the Maricopa. If you ever played Southern Dunes,
if you've ever played Southern Dunes, you know there are flies all over there. And they would talk about, you came to Maricopa, and now they got kids that are doing it. And they're going, Dad, I never realized how hard that was. I said, you still don't. But invest that time.
Your Investment Decisions Warrant Outside Counsel
Here's the second point. Your investment decisions warrant outside counsel. Proverbs 15:22 says, "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisors, they succeed."
So let me give you something, and I'll push you to do it more than I do it myself, and in a formal way. If General Motors or Intel or Scottsdale Healthcare or ASU need a board of directors, don't you? If Jordan Spieth needs a coach, is it possible you do?
Golf's a great illustration. I would call Duff every once in a while, Duff Lawrence, and I would always say, Duff, will you look at my swing? I never said, I don't need a bunch of mechanical tips, and Duff wouldn't give them to me anyway. I don't need all that, just look at it. All Duff would do is say, all right, take it, and He'd check my grip, and then He'd check my alignment. If I'm holding the club right, and I'm aligned right, I've got to really screw up to hit a bad shot from there, and I could do that. But Nicholas says 95% of bad shots occur before you take the club away from the ball. I just need somebody to look at it.
And so in my life, I try to keep together an informal group of guys. When I have questions, because here's what life does—I bet you didn't notice this—it'll throw you a curve. Stuff will come from nowhere. So if I have an economic question, I got a guy I call. If I have a theological question, depending on the job, I'll call Dr. Grudem, or I'll call whoever. I'll call Jamie, if it's not too tough a question. I'll call that. If I have political questions, I'll talk to those guys. You need those in your life.
Wise counsel and help, because no matter who you are, you're encountering stuff for the first time. I've never grown old. I'm trying to figure this out. Does everybody feel this way? Do you feel that way? Does that happen to you? Did you have that? I'm having grandkids, I'm trying to figure out the grandkids, got son-in-laws, got all those things. Wise counsel.
Rules for Wise Counsel
I'll give you some rules here, and they're kind of no-brainers. These people should be of the same gender as you. Guys, you should meet with guys. Gals, you should meet with gals. Because I'm saying, you're going to get really deep in the weeds in these conversations. You're going to start to expose feelings you have. All of a sudden, you're exposing a feeling of vulnerability. It's hard to discontinue being a man or being a woman, and those things are going to overlap.
And I will tell you this, not only should they share your gender, they should share your faith in these conversations. This is from a Newsweek article, and it happens to be about women, but it's true of men. It said, when groups of women get together, especially if they're mothers, and have been married for more than six or seven years, and especially if there's alcohol involved, the conversation is usually the same. They talk about their kids and work, how stressed they are, how busy they are, how bone tired they are. They gripe about their husbands, and if they're being perfectly honest, and the wine kicks in, they talk about the disappointments in their marriage.
I'm going to spare you counseling. You're sitting there, and you pour your guts out like that to another gal, and she's not a believer. What do you think she's going to say? Get a bulldog attorney and dump that guy. That's what she's going to say. You don't need to put up with that. You've got a good job. You'll figure it out. I'll come along. We'll get a group of women.
I was talking to my daughter Sarah yesterday, and she was asking me my advice on a situation that she was talking to another gal about. That makes sense. It's a hard question. I said, honey, I've wrestled with that reaction for a long time. I said, what did you say? And she said, I told her, you're never going to get through this on your own. It's the love of Jesus that's going to take you through this. If you don't love Jesus more and more and more every day, you're never going to get through this. That's pretty good advice.
So you need to find those people, same gender, same faith, same values, same likes. I sat down with a guy, and we're talking, and I said, what do you do? And it had something to do with physics and gamma rays. And I'm thinking, should we run the option? Who should we put in the slot? Who's our backup center? So find those people in your life that are wise and get them on your speed dial. Call them for no particular reason at all, just to have coffee. You need wise counsel.
Your Investment Capital Will Increase If You Do Your Homework
Here's the next thing. Your investment capital will increase, this is true of time and everything, if you do your homework. Here's a go-to passage, Proverbs 9:10, "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." We come back to this again and again and again. This is so fundamentally, basically true, that if we miss this, we miss everything. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. If I want to understand people in life, I have to see it as God sees it.
I'm watching, the other day, a guy preach, and He's not a guy that I listen to hardly ever, and He's not a guy that I would quote, and I'm not going to give you His name, because if I gave you His name, it might get in the way of you hearing what comes next. He was talking about faith, and He defined faith this way. Faith is seeing life as God sees it. And I thought, that's really good. Faith is seeing the world as God sees it.
How do I know how God sees this world? Well, I have to read His word. People used to say, well, give me some books to read. And I would say, Knowing God, Loving God, Pleasing God, Chosen by God. Now, even if
You're from the U of A, you're going to pick up a trend. But it is God. I need to know what God says. I don't care what Rush says. I don't care what O'Reilly says, or Oprah says. Most people that I talk to have a public policy that's more shaped by Rush Limbaugh than the Apostle Paul. That's not good. But it's natural. My financial strategy, my strategy of raising kids—I need that. And the more I study, the more I learn.
The Heart Problem Behind Behavior
I understand the problem. I was watching a police chief a few years ago of one of the major cities, and the police chief said, "We have serious problems." And of course, they said, "What are you going to do?" And she said, "I'm going to do this, this, this, this, this." And they said, "Do you think that'll work?" And she said, "Probably not. Because our fundamental problem with the people in our city is we need to change their hearts, not their behavior."
Now I got that. But in the interim, on the way to changing hearts, I've got to deal with behavior. My fundamental problem is I need to love Jesus more. When I look at my relationship with Sandy, I know that if there's a hard time there, my way to fix that—and I need to spend time with her, talk with her, understand her, all that. And I'm not dismissing that. But my biggest problem is I need to love Jesus more. Because if I love Jesus more, I'll love Sandy more. If I love Jesus more, I'll love my kids more, my grandkids more, you more.
The Assurance of Wise Investment
Your payoff is assured if you invest wisely. Proverbs 14:14 says, "The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways, a good man rewarded for his." Always investments.
One night—and we may not be in this room because we're a little bit older, but we're one of the few people in town left with a landline at home. And I don't think anybody's answered it. And I mean this, I don't think anybody's answered that phone in five years. So one night, the phone rings and I pick it up. And they said, "May I speak to Mr. Schroeder?" So I said, "Well, this is Mr. Schroeder." And there's "Mr. Schroeder. This is so and so from Dean Witter Edwards" or something. And I said, "Well, good. Thank you for calling."
And he said, "Mr. Schroeder, are you a reasonable man?" And I said, "I like to think so. Yes." "Mr. Schroeder, if I could show you an investment with minimum to no risk and high yield, would you be interested in that?" And I said, "Well, I don't think so." And he said, "Well, that doesn't sound reasonable." I said, "Well, it's not consistent with my historic investment portfolio, which has been low to medium risk with total failure. So I don't think I'd be interested in that."
Evaluating True Return on Investment
Well, that's what you do. What do you do when you invest? You want to understand, evaluate the risk, evaluate the return. And what God is saying is, these investments pay off. It doesn't mean you're going to live long. It doesn't mean you aren't going to have problems. It's going to mean you're going to be in a right relationship with God. And you're going to be prepared for life.
It's what Jesus says in Mark 8. And when He calls after Him, he has to lose his life. "What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?" How many times do I have to sit with guys who are clearly successful and wealthy? And you look in their eyes and you can see something's not there. You know something's missing. They've worked so hard at trying to have fun and do all and be all they can be that the wrinkles are pouring in and the emptiness is there.
If we're going to do it in sports terms, they've got the Super Bowl ring, but they've lost the wedding ring. It's cost them everything. There's going to be a comfort, a satisfaction at the end of the life of saying, you know what? The good man is rewarded.
Your Greatest Assignment
Here you go, point two. Your time management is your greatest assignment. And this is hyperbole—nothing deserves more careful attention. Proverbs 14:8 says, "The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways. The folly of the fools is deception," is to be deliberate.
Of the guys that I know that I've talked to, they talk about life and this. The guy that manifests this the best to me is Dr. Grudem. Dr. Grudem will every day, when he gets up, unless there's some extraordinary schedule—he'll get up, he'll have his tea, he'll have muffins that Margaret's made him, healthy muffins. He'll spend a half hour, 45 minutes, whatever the time is, in the Word itself reading, meditating, studying, noting. And then he will take his schedule, his requests, which are many, his schedule, which is planned, and he will pray for, pray over it, and ask God for wisdom to know who he should meet with. He understands the importance of deliberate and it precedes making those commitments. It's to think. It's to understand that I have this non-renewable resource.
The Problem with Misplaced Values
We'll put these next two together. Sincerity is no relief for stupidity and self-assurance is no guarantee of success. "A simple man believes anything." He's sincere. I think there's two words, and there's probably way more than this, but at least two words that are values that we've made too high in the culture. One of them is sincerity and the other is tolerance.
And so they'll talk about somebody and they'll go, here's so-and-so. I had somebody came to a study and said to me, "I was very in your study last week." And I said, "Well, I understand, you know. I'm hitting singles right now." And he said, "No, not that. I brought an unbeliever. A guy that didn't know Christ. And you offended him." And I said, "Okay, I can do that. What did I say?" Because I want the message to be offensive. I'd like for me to not be offensive. And he said, "You said that Jesus was the only way to heaven. And that offended him." And I said, "Well, why did you bring
Him? What did you think was going to happen? I don't get it. I don't get the connection there. And he said, this guy's a good guy. And I said, I'm sure he is. You're a good guy. I'm sure he's a good friend. And I said, what does he believe?
And he said, well, he doesn't believe in anything. They just had an article on one of the presidential candidates, and again, I don't want to get into which one, talking about his belief in God, and how he doesn't really believe God, and he's walked away from his original things. And he said, well, okay, does that matter? I don't know if it matters to you or not. But he's really sincere.
It doesn't matter if I'm sincere if I'm wrong. If I'm at Yale, and I'm in math, and the question is two plus two, and he goes, man, I can answer that one fast, that's six. And I said, now you've got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm confident. I'll bet you a gluten-free cookie, because that's all he can eat. I'll bet you a gluten-free cookie, it's six. Well, buddy, you're out of a cookie.
We see those things around us. Here you go, Proverbs 14:12, "There's a way that seems right to men, but in the end, it leads to death." Hell is filled with people who are sincere and confident. But that doesn't mean that they're right. So make sure we don't just go out there and look at us. Just because we're sincere and confident doesn't mean we're right. The thing that makes us right and confident is that we can say, well, God said. That's where my confidence is, not what Tom says, God says.
Your Control Is Not Complete
Number three, your control of your schedule is not complete. Flexibility should be built into your planning. We'll go through them, they build. The future is outside your span of control, you know that. Proverbs 27:1, "Don't boast about tomorrow, for you don't know what the day will bring." Very similar to James 4:13, that life is like a vapor.
Somebody else controls the intimate details of your days. Proverbs 16:9, "In his heart, a man plans his course, but the Lord determines his steps." God causes, God moves. God brings a flood, God brings a drought. God closes a deal, God doesn't close a deal. God brings a cancer, God takes it away. And I tend to get lost in the weeds on that and try to go, well, would God do that? Yeah, that's what the Bible says. The Lord killed all the firstborn. Who made the deaf? Who made the dumb? Who made the blind? Who spoke the world into existence? Who put you here?
God alone, it's on your outline. God alone is the final determiner of the outcome of your plans. "Many are the plans in a man's heart," Proverbs 19:21, "but the Lord's purpose that prevails." And that doesn't turn me into this meaningless robot. It simply says that God's in control. And I guess you could have all sorts of reactions for that. To me, I find that really comforting.
When they say, are you claustrophobic? I'm saying, well, God's in control. When one of the girls calls and says, Dad, Sarah came in the other day. Sarah's got life, four kids, four girls. Came in the other day, walked in the back door, and water was pouring through the ceiling from the second floor. She went upstairs, and she had two or three inches of water in the second floor. She sent me a picture the next morning, and the house literally was stripped down to past studs. And so, you know, it's Sarah, and I'm going, baby, all right, and she goes, you know, God must be doing something. Well, did God cause that flood? Was it bad plumbing? I don't know. He could have stopped it. I don't know. All I know is God's in control.
Wisdom Suggests Submission
So the last point, big one, star, circle, surround, is that wisdom suggests submission to the One that's in control. Rather than fight this, accept it. Proverbs 16:3, "Commit to the Lord whatever you do." All of a sudden, I'm submitting my life to Him. I'm understanding He's God, and I'm not. And I know all this stuff sounds like bumper stickers, but that changes everything. It takes so much of the tension out of everything. I don't know. I got it. I don't know what the future holds, but I know He holds the future. I don't know how it's going to turn out. I don't know what's going to happen, but I know ultimately it will be for my good in His glory.
How Do You Know You're In Control?
So how do you know you're in control? Number one, you plan your investment ahead of the time. You're deliberate. You're not reactive. You're proactive.
Two, you balance your work and your rest. I'm talking to my daughter the other day, and she's very, very busy. And she's working and coaching, talking, managing some other ladies. And she said, it isn't even close. By far the biggest question they have is, how am I going to get all this done? How am I going to do all that? And then, no matter what they do, they sit down at the end of the day and feel they didn't do enough.
Here's the third thing. You protect your opportunities for spontaneity, which puts you right into welcome divine interruptions. It occurred to me years ago, as I reviewed my year, that my most significant moments in dealing with people, I'll say wins, that by far they never appeared on my schedule. By far they were things that happened standing in a line at Starbucks, or a phone rang.
Divine Interruptions
I'm teaching this yesterday morning. Allow for divine interruptions. And I say, let's pray. We pray. I look up, and there's a guy who I knew years ago, haven't seen in two years, works in the Ukraine, lives in Calgary, and he said, I'm your divine interruption for the day. And it was a perfect 45-minute, one-hour conversation. That's what God will do.
When people come to you, let me just give you this tip. Give me an extra 60 seconds here. People will come to you, and they'll start to talk to you, and maybe even begin to share with you. They'll feel you out a little bit, and then start to share their life with you, their problems with you. There's two questions you need to ask. Why are they telling you? And most often, it's because they think that they've seen
In you something that would lend them to believe you could help them. And here's the question to ask them all: What can I do for you? Before you quote a Bible verse for them, before you give them a tape, a book, before you dump all your wisdom on them, what can I do for you? What is it you need?
In this world that spins out of control, you have certain things you can control. And one of them, often, is your time. And I'm lobbying that it's the most important asset you have, because it's a non-renewable resource.
Well, what gets in the way of that? One of the things that does are your own desires. I don't want to do it. Well, we're moving in my wheelhouse now. So next week, we're going to talk about appetites, desires. We'll do it next week.